VSELP Is Now DEAD!

ASTROMODAT · Post by **ASTROMODAT** » Wed Apr 02, 2003 5:17 pm

Motorola's March, 2003 R3 Price Book shows "Intent-To-Cancel" for all VSELP options for the Quantar Conventional and Trunked Repeaters, and the VSELP option on the DIU3000, effective June 30, 2003.

Reminds me of the SONY Beta fiasco!

Gotta feel sorry for the taxpayers in the few VSELP cities!

There goes that Motorola marketing genius again. Wish I could hire that guy!

Larry

RESCUE161 · Post by **RESCUE161** » Wed Apr 02, 2003 5:26 pm

I am getting ready to upgrade a few STX821's to VSLEP...LMAO

Scott

Post by **wavetar** » Wed Apr 02, 2003 6:49 pm

VSELP was essentially dead the day IMBE was chosen over it for the APCO-25 standard. It wasn't a decision of Motorola marketing, people just weren't going to buy it because it wasn't the standard. I don't think any significant amount of VSELP radios were sold after APCO-25 became reality. It is good for Motorola though...all they have to say is "Hey, who knew? It's not our fault! Now...just sign here on the dotted line & we'll sell you all new IMBE radios..."
Hardly the same as Betamax, that was a case of a superior product being squeezed out of the marketplace due to Sony keeping the technology proprietary, and everyone else in the world selling cheaper open VHS technology. In VSELP's case, it's an inferior technology, simply falling to the wayside, as IMBE likely will to AMBE, and beyond.

Todd

nitornemo · Post by **nitornemo** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 1:02 am

Can someone look up this part# for me?
NTN7749

Thanks in advance

.

ASTRO_25 · Post by **ASTRO_25** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 5:13 am

I wonder what this means for Memphis and Cleveland?

tom IL · Post by **tom IL** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 8:35 am

nitornemo,
all motorola says about that part number is "VOCODER CONTROLLER" NTN7749G is the current ver. Thats all I could find.

nitornemo · Post by **nitornemo** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 10:11 am

tom IL wrote:nitornemo,
all motorola says about that part number is "VOCODER CONTROLLER" NTN7749G is the current ver. Thats all I could find.

Thanks for the info.....
I have 5 with a "D" suffex and was wondering if they were 1meg or 512k, and if not APCO what it would cost to upgrade.

I had to wait for the owner of the shop to to get in to grab the 10 digit customer ID to call /\/\.

Whelp, 20 minutes on the phone with TechSupport and Product Group they tell me what I feared. FlatRate them to the depot to find out!
No info on old AS3's on file!

ExKa|iBuR · Post by **ExKa|iBuR** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 11:32 am

I'm just wondering.

I've used IMBE stuff before. What's the voice quality of VSELP like, compared to IMBE?

Seems to me that VSELP is more "secure" now, because the standard is IMBE, so the places that do have VSELP don't have to worry about people with the new digital scanner or anything.

Not quite encryption, but may as well be!

M

Post by **wavetar** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 5:42 am

VSELP voice quality is very comparable to IMBE, within good coverage areas. IMBE is much more robust & holds voice quality into fringe areas much better than VSELP, that's it's biggest advantage.

Todd