Saber conversion

JOHN R · Post by **JOHN R** » Sat Apr 06, 2002 10:45 pm

What componets would I need to convert a uhf Saber to vhf? Is anything interchangeable?

Astro_Saber · Post by **Astro_Saber** » Sat Apr 06, 2002 10:53 pm

RSS and a vhf freq module

i believe

N4UMJ · Post by **N4UMJ** » Sat Apr 06, 2002 11:42 pm

There isn't too much in common between the VHF and UHF Sabers and a simple conversion is not possible. You would have to replace a number of components to accomplish this.

Better to just find another Saber fitting your needs.

However........

There are 6 Modules that make up a Non-Secure VHF Saber and 5 Modules that make up a Non-Secure UHF Saber. Only one of these is interchangeable between the VHF/UHF and this is the Reference Oscillator. All the rest are different.

The Main PC (Mother) Board is different between the UHF and VHF Sabers also.

Of course the Radio Casing, Frame Assy. and the Face Shield/Speaker would be interchangeable. LCD Display if involved would require reprogramming.

Hope this helps...

Ed
N4UMJ

ricciticcitembo · Post by **ricciticcitembo** » Sat Apr 06, 2002 11:47 pm

On 2002-04-07 01:53, Astro_Saber wrote:
RSS and a vhf freq module

i believe

That Was Amusing.

10-95 · Post by **10-95** » Sun Apr 07, 2002 11:27 am

Forget replacing a number of components!! There is a big difference between the Uhf main board and the vhf main board. Let me put it this way, you would be better off to sell the UHF and buy a vhf.

You will never make a UHF board operate as a vhf, it will never happen.

Elroy Jetson · Post by **Elroy Jetson** » Sun Apr 07, 2002 4:04 pm

You'd have to replace the main board and every module on it. Only the reference oscillator is common to both UHF and VHF Sabers.

Elroy

JOHN R · Post by **JOHN R** » Sun Apr 07, 2002 7:25 pm

Thanks all, That answers that.

JOHN R · Post by **JOHN R** » Mon Apr 08, 2002 10:42 am

Could anyone tell me what the 5 modules are? I would seriously like to put a radio together, also, how easy are these modules to place on the board? (Uhf-non-secure) Any help would be appreciated- Thanks

Monty · Post by **Monty** » Mon Apr 08, 2002 4:12 pm

<b><font color=lime>Hi:

Assuming you are speaking of a 438-470Mhz
Saber, you will need the following:

1) NLE9472A Power Amp ( 5 Watt )
1) NLE9432A Receiver ( Filter/Amp/Mixer)
1) NLE9462A VCO/Synthesizer
1) NFE6061A FDS(403-470) Wide spaced module
1) NLE4150A PC Board for the 403-512 range

Note: All UHF PC Boards are the same. VHF
PC Boards are a NLD8160A and that is the reason it is not possible to change a VHF
Saber into a UHF one or vise versa.

Hope that sheds some light
onto your inquiry.

N4UMJ · Post by **N4UMJ** » Tue Apr 09, 2002 6:22 pm

"How easy are these modules to place on the board?"

Hello John R,

The Saber has to be one of the all time easiest to service radios.

All you need is a spanner screw driver for the two nuts on the bottom plate where the battery attaches and a small phillips screwdriver to replace the modules.

Just don't remove the two phillips screws (attached to the gold battery contacts)adjacent to the spanner nuts. This will not get you inside the Saber. The only time I remove these is to do a thorough cleaning.

The modules are idiot proof(except for the reference oscillator)and plug right in. I never have bent any pins but they are small and could be easily done. Just use common sense and gently push them into place when installing.

Saber Service Manuals are not that expensive and make identifying and ordering parts much easier. The Saber Service Manual # is: 6881043C95.

Beware of some of the cheaper Sabers on eBay as most of them are missing the Reference Oscillator (costly to replace) and alot of them are for the 403-433 (Gov'mnt)range.

And when the Saber is all built up you will need the access to the necessary test/prog. equipment to do a final alignment etc.

Ed
N4UMJ

JOHN R · Post by **JOHN R** » Tue Apr 09, 2002 8:45 pm

Thanks for the info Ed, I was starting to think maybe I was pipe dreaming- I`m breathing a sigh of relief! I`ve opened my ht1250 & thought maybe this isn`t a good idea after all if a saber looks anything like this! Thanks alot for the good news- John

Astro_Saber · Post by **Astro_Saber** » Tue Apr 09, 2002 9:38 pm

thats what i get for guessing

williamh · Post by **williamh** » Tue Apr 09, 2002 10:06 pm

dont feel bad Astro_Saber, i thought the same thing and monty pretty much shot me full of holes when i brought it up to him , i thought i could swap a couple of modules , and re program the radio as a diffrent band and would be good to go ....guess not !!!

. o well , we gotta learn some time ...

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