Firmware 7.0 information

Post by **batdude** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:39 pm

note: NONE of this applies to your beloved XTS 3000 series radios.

new features supported w/ firmware 7.0 (and CPS 7.0)

-Immersible XTS-2500 (XTS-2500i)

-Model 1 with Display for the XTS-1500 and MT-1500

-Rebanding Models

-B Model Platform

New Radio Features Supported:
=============================
NOTE: Firmware version R07.00.00 required for all features

-Support for 800 MHz rebanding

-DVRS

-GPS Location over ASTRO 25 Trunking Systems

-Configuration of Multiple Conversation mode

-FCC-Compliant FPP on the XTS-2500 and XTS-5000

-UCM Hardware Encryption for the XTS-2500 portable

-ASTRO 25 LE System support

-VRS with Scan

some major things here....

- GPS over Astro25 (hmmm....wonder where my radios are???) (certainly this will be some kind of additional hardware-involved solution....i'm thinking connected to a convertacom or via the rear of the XTL mobile

- multiple conversation mode.... WTFO?

- UCM in a XTS2500? didn't even know there was a connector or room inside there for a UCM.... curious about that one

- FPP in the XTS2500.... awesome!

- FCC compliant FPP... what's that? Start thinkin' dongle / cloning cable to program --- a la JT1000.... so that means that the FPP option is going to (soon) be available to the general public... not cheap, but hey... cool none-the-less

now.... before you get all hissy. it appears that firmware 7.0 will require a dongle on the Q52 optioned FPP radios to meet FCC rules/regs (ala JT1000) radios w/o version 7 firmware don't require a dongle.

question is... will programming a radio with Version 6 firmware using CPS version 7.0 result in a "bricked" FPP that now requires a dongle/cloning cable to be attached prior to being FPP-able.....

anyway... neat stuff for sure.

doug

spectragod · Post by **spectragod** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:23 am

Doug,

To enable the GPS, you will need to attach the GPS hardware optioned mic onto the 5K portable itself.

SG

RKG · Post by **RKG** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:19 am

And don't expect all that much. As folks are beginning to realize, most GPS heads will not derive a fix: inside buildings, inside vehicles, or in deeply urban areas with high rise buildings and other horizon obstructions.

The Pager Geek · Post by **The Pager Geek** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:12 am

based on logic:

Firmware interfaces with the user programmable data to give you your options, and the firmware tells the radio how to use it.

Thus, Version 6 firmware did not need a dongle when it sees the FPP option in the user codeplug. Version 7 does. Irregardless of the codeplug version, the firmware requires it, whch supercedes the codeplug.

However, I'm guessing there is proabably a Gov version that will exist also, either short term or long term.

tpg

RESCUE161 · Post by **RESCUE161** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:32 am

I tried to pull up the software on MOL last week and nothing was there. I guess they were updating the account.

I just wish I could get updated firmware on my 123ABC...

mancow · Post by **mancow** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:40 am

I was talking with an MRSS guy at work the other day and mentioned the FPP option that has been available for the 5K. He told me there was no such thing.

Then again, these were the same people unable to program a saber.

Post by **wavetar** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:52 am

mancow wrote:I was talking with an MRSS guy at work the other day and mentioned the FPP option that has been available for the 5K. He told me there was no such thing.

Then again, these were the same people unable to program a saber.

Trust me, I know far more about the Motorola radio features through this website than through any kind of Motorola information system. It doesn't surprise me in the least that they don't know about the FPP...I've never heard anything about it other than through here.

Even within Motorola themselves, the left hand quite often doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

Todd

mr.syntrx · Post by **mr.syntrx** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:24 pm

RKG wrote:And don't expect all that much. As folks are beginning to realize, most GPS heads will not derive a fix: inside buildings, inside vehicles, or in deeply urban areas with high rise buildings and other horizon obstructions.

But it is incredibly useful for wildfire fighting, land rescue etc.

spectragod · Post by **spectragod** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:05 pm

batdude wrote:note: NONE of this applies to your beloved XTS 3000 series radios.

new features supported w/ firmware 7.0 (and CPS 7.0)

-Immersible XTS-2500 (XTS-2500i)

-Model 1 with Display for the XTS-1500 and MT-1500

-Rebanding Models

-B Model Platform

New Radio Features Supported:
=============================
NOTE: Firmware version R07.00.00 required for all features

-Support for 800 MHz rebanding

-DVRS

-GPS Location over ASTRO 25 Trunking Systems

-Configuration of Multiple Conversation mode

-FCC-Compliant FPP on the XTS-2500 and XTS-5000

-UCM Hardware Encryption for the XTS-2500 portable

-ASTRO 25 LE System support

-VRS with Scan

some major things here....

- GPS over Astro25 (hmmm....wonder where my radios are???) (certainly this will be some kind of additional hardware-involved solution....i'm thinking connected to a convertacom or via the rear of the XTL mobile

- multiple conversation mode.... WTFO?

- UCM in a XTS2500? didn't even know there was a connector or room inside there for a UCM.... curious about that one

- FPP in the XTS2500.... awesome!

- FCC compliant FPP... what's that? Start thinkin' dongle / cloning cable to program --- a la JT1000.... so that means that the FPP option is going to (soon) be available to the general public... not cheap, but hey... cool none-the-less

now.... before you get all hissy. it appears that firmware 7.0 will require a dongle on the Q52 optioned FPP radios to meet FCC rules/regs (ala JT1000) radios w/o version 7 firmware don't require a dongle.

question is... will programming a radio with Version 6 firmware using CPS version 7.0 result in a "bricked" FPP that now requires a dongle/cloning cable to be attached prior to being FPP-able.....

anyway... neat stuff for sure.

doug

CPS 7.00.00 lists Q53 which is FCC conventional FPP and radio cloning, it also lists Q52 Federal Government FPP enhancement.

I suspect if it has Q52, it won't matter what software you program it with.

SG

Post by Pj » Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:15 pm

DVRS?

hoser · Post by **hoser** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:45 am

Digital VRS System
Made up here in the Great White North!
Motorola will be branding it themselves

MikeOxlong · Post by **MikeOxlong** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:50 pm

From what I can tell in the rss, Multiple Conversation Mode allows you to simultaneously receive two approximately equal signals at the same time.

Not that they will be intelligible at all but apparently some users wanted to tell that two people were transmitting at the same time.

ab · Post by ab » Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:33 pm

From what I can tell in the rss, Multiple Conversation Mode allows you to simultaneously receive two approximately equal signals at the same time.

Try conversation - message - P.T.T. on the same system.
just a guess

ab

Jason · Post by **Jason** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 11:44 am

Maybe the DVRS will be a little cheaper than the futurecomm, but its probably made by them, so its doubtful.

Post by **Mfire39** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:00 pm

Hello all, quick question after reading this post and some others. I was just wondering if it has been confirmed yet that if a Q52 (FPP) optioned XTS5000 with firmware version 6 is programmed with CPS version 7, will you then require some type of programming key? Or will it retain the "no key needed" programming. The radio in question currently has Q52 and Q53 in it, and firmware version 6. Just wondering if anyone has any updated info on this.

Thanks,

-Marc

Post by Pj » Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:23 am

Q52 and Q53?

I would think those two options would conflict with each other...

Post by **Mfire39** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:51 am

Thats kinda what I was thinking after reading it in CPS, and those 2 options showing up together. Hmmm, very interesting.

-Marc

Post by Pj » Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:04 pm

What's the flashcode?

Post by **Mfire39** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:15 pm

Found the info I was looking for, no further assistance is needed with my question.

Thanks,

-Marc

N4DES · Post by **N4DES** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:09 pm

Just did the upgrade on an XTS2500 to firmware 7.0. Taking a brief look at the codeplug it now has a place for a secondary failsoft channel and the radio shows 512 channels.

Post by **Mfire39** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:48 pm

I also upgraded my VHF XTS5000 Mod 3 to firmware version 7.0 last week. It now shows 850 channels instead of 512. Thats a whole lot of channels to fill.

-Marc

Victor Xray · Post by **Victor Xray** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:32 pm

Anyone catch this in the CPS 7.0 readme?

Code: Select all

-FCC-Compliant FPP on the XTS-2500 and XTS-5000

SWEET! Q53 on an XTS2500!

Post by **Mfire39** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:44 pm

Also, just wanted to add that I can confirm that if an XTS5000 is programmed with firmware 7.0 and has Q52 in it, then no programming key/dongle is needed. Q53 does require a programming key/dongle with firmware 7.0

-Marc

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