The dreaded "FAIL 01/93"

This forum is for discussions regarding all aspects of Motorola radio programming, including hardware, computers, installation and use of RSS/CPS, firmware upgrades, and troubleshooting. There are subforums for discussions of codeplugs, and also for software/firmware release notes and issues.

Moderator: Queue Moderator

Post Reply
User avatar
Hey Nurse
was hovburglar
Posts: 147
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:42 pm
What radios do you own?: The ones with smoke inside

The dreaded "FAIL 01/93"

Post by Hey Nurse »

I know what it is. I know (for the most part, i think) what caused it....

I bought an MTS2K on fleabay and read it w/ Lab RSS ver 2.00.01 (sep 8 93)....everything came up OK, and so i started changing the freqs from the former owner's to my local ham freqs....

After making said changes I hit F8 to program it....not F6/F7 for internal/external....

Than the infamous 01/93.

Before i hang my head and skulk off to the local Moto shop, is there any way to fix this? I'll guess not, but i figure i can take a little freindly ribbing and maybe learn something....
AEC
No Longer Registered
Posts: 1889
Joined: Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:56 pm

Re: The dreaded "FAIL 01/93"

Post by AEC »

Error 01/93 is an IMPROPER RSS message(flashport security error).

Upgrade, or change your version of RSS/CPS.
User avatar
Hey Nurse
was hovburglar
Posts: 147
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:42 pm
What radios do you own?: The ones with smoke inside

Re: The dreaded "FAIL 01/93"

Post by Hey Nurse »

When i attempt power on, i get "FAIL 01/93"......no errors...

I am entirely new to the MTS series--as far as flashing, upgrades, programming, and so on.........

How does one upgrade?
User avatar
n7maq
Posts: 1440
Joined: Tue Nov 27, 2001 4:00 pm
What radios do you own?: Mocom 70 w/scan!!

Re: The dreaded "FAIL 01/93"

Post by n7maq »

If you don't have a saved S-record (from THAT RADIO) you are SOL for clearing it out on your end.


Jim
User avatar
Mfire39
Moderator
Posts: 1331
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2004 8:53 am
What radios do you own?: APX

Re: The dreaded "FAIL 01/93"

Post by Mfire39 »

AEC wrote:Upgrade, or change your version of RSS/CPS.
Nope, neither will recover it...

Gather up all the loose news papers and magazines around your house, take the MTS and set it down right in the middle of the pile of papers as a weight..

Whether you are new to the MTS or not, you should have done a little more research on what software to use. Old lab should not have been your first choice..


-Marc
Stupidity creates job security!

If your radio has old firmware, programming it with the latest CPS will not add any new features unless you have the latest firmware to match..

CPS = Customer Programming Software, Not CPS Software.
AEC
No Longer Registered
Posts: 1889
Joined: Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:56 pm

Re: The dreaded "FAIL 01/93"

Post by AEC »

Check the controller #, such as (NCN6147A) and replace it with the same controller, with the same bandsplit and options...you MAY be able to read the radio then save the data.

Then swap to the corrupt controller and clone the codewplug back in to it.

May work, may not.

But it is worth a shot.

Your firmware version is obviously a toolproof vintage, and not pre, so you got bit using ANY version of LAB...NO NO!
User avatar
Mfire39
Moderator
Posts: 1331
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2004 8:53 am
What radios do you own?: APX

Re: The dreaded "FAIL 01/93"

Post by Mfire39 »

AEC wrote:Check the controller #, such as (NCN6147A) and replace it with the same controller, with the same bandsplit and options...you MAY be able to read the radio then save the data.

Then swap to the corrupt controller and clone the codewplug back in to it.

May work, may not.

But it is worth a shot.
Nope, that's not going to recover it either.. Old lab does not calculate the auth code in the codeplug, hence the checksum error.. Cloning, programming, and whatever else you try with old software and srecs won't work unless the srec is from "that" radio before it was bricked.. Bottom line, at this point the auth code needs to be recalculated to clear the checksum error, end of story.


-Marc
Stupidity creates job security!

If your radio has old firmware, programming it with the latest CPS will not add any new features unless you have the latest firmware to match..

CPS = Customer Programming Software, Not CPS Software.
AEC
No Longer Registered
Posts: 1889
Joined: Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:56 pm

Re: The dreaded "FAIL 01/93"

Post by AEC »

I don't brick radios, and never wanted to try, but recovery can be done.

He can use a good copy of real RSS/CPS and swap controllers, read that one and place the old back in and program the radio.

VCO crossover frequencies will be the same...all should be identical, so it should work.

Just tricking the controller to think it has the proper checksums, model definition and so on.

Use of LAB on anything but Maxtracs, MTX9000s and the like is foolish, and even more so with Jedis having firmware above 5.42(I believe).

Better try something that 'could' work, instead of simply giving up.

But if he does recover, it was a good lesson taught.

RTFM.....Info abounds here about toolproofing issues.
User avatar
Hey Nurse
was hovburglar
Posts: 147
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:42 pm
What radios do you own?: The ones with smoke inside

Re: The dreaded "FAIL 01/93"

Post by Hey Nurse »

Lessons learned:
1) RTFM
2) SAVE YOUR CODE PLUGS/S Records BEFORE mucking about
3) In DOS we trust
4 Labs are bad...Meth labs, College course labs, and MTSX lab....

Thanks for the help and suggestions all.......I think i may just suck it up and eat the cost of the mistake.....
You want me to do WHAT with your radio?
User avatar
FireCpt809
Posts: 1848
Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2002 4:00 pm
What radios do you own?: Alot..

Re: The dreaded "FAIL 01/93"

Post by FireCpt809 »

the case and RF board are still salvagable
User avatar
Hey Nurse
was hovburglar
Posts: 147
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:42 pm
What radios do you own?: The ones with smoke inside

Re: The dreaded "FAIL 01/93"

Post by Hey Nurse »

Do i dare ask if anyone has a user guide for the RSS
***DISCLAIMER: Lest anyone be confused, i DO NOT WANT THE SOFTWARE......merley the instructions for using it.***
You want me to do WHAT with your radio?
motorola_otaku
Posts: 1854
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:03 am

Re: The dreaded "FAIL 01/93"

Post by motorola_otaku »

Mfire39 wrote:Gather up all the loose news papers and magazines around your house, take the MTS and set it down right in the middle of the pile of papers as a weight..
He could also zap the controller a few times with static electricity, then send it to Mexirola.. "radio died one day, won't power up.."
User avatar
Hey Nurse
was hovburglar
Posts: 147
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:42 pm
What radios do you own?: The ones with smoke inside

Re: The dreaded "FAIL 01/93"

Post by Hey Nurse »

motorola_otaku wrote:
Mfire39 wrote:Gather up all the loose news papers and magazines around your house, take the MTS and set it down right in the middle of the pile of papers as a weight..
He could also zap the controller a few times with static electricity, then send it to Mexirola.. "radio died one day, won't power up.."

LOL

Sold for parts....wasnt that pretty and i dont have that many papers around the house to hold down...
You want me to do WHAT with your radio?
Post Reply

Return to “Radio Programming”