MTS2000 Encryption Board questions

The General forum is where users can discuss any topic regarding Motorola communications equipment - hardware, software, etc. There are also several focused forums on this board, so please take the time to ensure that your questions doesn't fall into one of those categories before posting here!

Moderator: Queue Moderator

Post Reply
User avatar
d119
Posts: 3538
Joined: Tue Mar 19, 2002 4:00 pm

MTS2000 Encryption Board questions

Post by d119 »

How can I identify an encryption module that I removed from a waterlogged MTS2000?

It doesn't have any tags on it. 1 gold colored IC, and a small button on the back of it (little popple button like the PTT).

I cleaned up the board and put it in a known good MTS2000 and the radio boots... But I don't know the algorithm or any of that...

Also,

Are encryption modules that install in the MTS 2000 supposed to sit in a little plastic carrier or anything like that, or do they just snap into the socket and the shield goes over everything?
User avatar
batdude
Personal aide to Mr. Cook
Posts: 2741
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2001 4:00 pm

..

Post by batdude »

if there is only ONE gold IC, it's *NOT* an "XL" chip... it's either DVP or DES.


there is a rubber pad that protects/buffers the secure board... but the part # isn't in the manual that i looked at....




d
BRAVO MIKE JULIET ALPHA
"You can do whatever you want, there are just consequences..."
IF SOMEONE PM'S YOU - HAVE THE COURTESY TO REPLY.
User avatar
d119
Posts: 3538
Joined: Tue Mar 19, 2002 4:00 pm

Post by d119 »

Doug,

Thanks. Yep, just 1 gold IC. Any way to tell which algorithm? I realize it's non-XL.... Just wondering how to keyload it. Has 1 large IC labelled "JABBA"...
kk6rq
Posts: 94
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2004 1:56 am
What radios do you own?: My wife is calling; go away...

Re: MTS2000 Encryption Board questions

Post by kk6rq »

I can tell you that the rubber carrier of which they speak (other than holding it securely) is specifically
to keep that bubble button depressed, so it won't dump the key.
As for IDing the thing, if you have, say, a 3011-DX KVL, pop it in the radio and try to load it. If it works,
that should answer your question.... (eg. plain CFB-DES) If it says "PASSED", hold down the ON button
and it should say CFB 01. If it doesn't load its probably either DVP or DED.
User avatar
Rick Rock
Posts: 757
Joined: Wed Dec 25, 2002 10:08 am

Re: ..

Post by Rick Rock »

batdude wrote:if there is only ONE gold IC, it's *NOT* an "XL" chip... it's either DVP or DES.


there is a rubber pad that protects/buffers the secure board... but the part # isn't in the manual that i looked at....




d
Are you sure Doug? Because I have a NTN7280A sitting here in front of me with 1 gold IC...
Image
The Batlounge admin
http://www.batlounge.us
kk6rq
Posts: 94
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2004 1:56 am
What radios do you own?: My wife is calling; go away...

Re: ..

Post by kk6rq »

If that's the case, pressing the ON button will say 8DB 01 (or 00, I forget) if its DES-XL. So check it out and let us know, OM....

d[/quote]

Are you sure Doug? Because I have a NTN7280A sitting here in front of me with 1 gold IC...[/quote]
User avatar
mr.syntrx
Posts: 1587
Joined: Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:09 pm

Re: MTS2000 Encryption Board questions

Post by mr.syntrx »

The two NTN7280As I have in front of me have two gold ICs, and a black IC.
drdog
Posts: 9
Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:31 pm
What radios do you own?: XTS2500, XTS5000, MICOM 2E

Re: MTS2000 Encryption Board questions

Post by drdog »

I know this post is 5 years old but just for the record, or for anyone that is still playing with the MTS2000 series radios, The NTN7280A , (DES-XL), I have in front of me has three chips, 2 small 28 pin and one large processor. One of the two smaller ones is gold top, and the other is just plain black. I believe it does not matter if you have both small chips gold or just one. That is just different chip manufacturer. When I pulled this board from the host radio there was nothing pressing against the button that I recall. It just plugged in and that was it...
Post Reply

Return to “General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion”