XTS3000 Model 1

ExKa|iBuR · Post by **ExKa|iBuR** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 9:26 pm

Hey all...

Is there any way to get a Model 1 XTS3000 to do 255 modes? I have a Model 1 right now that has a Model 3 codeplug in it, so it does 255 modes...

The reason I want 255 is so I can have a few scanlists...

Eg:

Channel 1 would reference a scanlist that scans 16 channels that aren't directly accessed by an individual channel.

-Mike

Post by **wavetar** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 10:30 pm

ExKa|iBuR wrote:Hey all...

Is there any way to get a Model 1 XTS3000 to do 255 modes? I have a Model 1 right now that has a Model 3 codeplug in it, so it does 255 modes...

-Mike

Ummmm, yeah, you have already answered your question. Why would the factory allow any more than 48 modes for a Model I, when there's no way to access them? Shove a Model III codeplug in it, and sure you can get 255 modes...but can you acess them?

Todd

ExKa|iBuR · Post by **ExKa|iBuR** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 12:16 am

I don't want to access them.

Here's what I want to do...

For each OPP (Provincial Police) detatchment, they have a corresponding talkgroup for them. Each area also has an ambulance talkgroup and some conventional frequencies.

What I want to do is set up my radio so that when I go to say, Channel 4, it selects the OPP talkgroup for Hamilton. It would then auto-scan the Hamilton OPP and Ambulance talkgroups as well as some conventional frequencies for the area.

So basically, one channel would address an auto-scan list with half a dozen or so talkgroups.

Example:

Channel 1 is set to Conventional Personality 1 which is set to Scanlist 1. Scanlist 1 would contain half a dozen talkgroups that are in Zone 4 (which I can't directly access on the radio), and it would auto-scan.

The other advantage of this is that I can set the scan mode to Selected Channel revert on PTT, and set the conventional channel to RX only...that way I never have to worry about keying up where I shouldn't be (other than setting an invalid ID).

-Mike

Heterodyne · Post by **Heterodyne** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 5:44 am

ExKa|iBuR wrote:Is there any way to get a Model 1 XTS3000 to do 255 modes? I have a Model 1 right now that has a Model 3 codeplug in it, so it does 255 modes...

You are asking about putting 255 modes in a radio that you claim already does 255 modes...

Wow, you're wasting no time in tricking out our brand new $700 Model I, aren't ya? I hear putting a 2 ch HT600 codeplug into it with MTSX LAB will give it 512 modes. Try that.

ExKa|iBuR · Post by **ExKa|iBuR** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 6:47 am

...

If you read my other post, I was asking how to get a MODEL 1 codeplug to do 255 modes, not a Model 3.

Yes, it does 255 modes now, but there's a zillion options in the codeplug that are completly useless without a display.

-Mike

Heterodyne · Post by **Heterodyne** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 7:01 am

True, but wouldn't scanning zillions of talkgroups on a display-less radio be just as confusing? You would have no clue about who's talking, what talkgroup is active, etc. saying nothing about things like programming custom scanlists, dynamic priority, etc.

Would it not just be simpler to make do with the existing amount of channels until you get a better radio? It sounds like you're trying to trick out a radio that really isn't designed for anything more than rudimentary use.

You spent money on a very limited radio, you might as well just use it to the best of its ability.

I bet you're wishing you spent that money on a scanner, eh?

Its a lot of coin to lay out just to use MODAT.

ExKa|iBuR · Post by **ExKa|iBuR** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 7:10 am

Naw. The PRO-96 is limited to only 10 systems, for what I want to do.

It wouldn't be confusing, as it'd only be scanning three thigns - OPP, MTO and Ambulance.

It's very easy to tell which is which!

-Mike

ExKa|iBuR · Post by **ExKa|iBuR** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 7:11 am

Besides, a PRO-96 won't do AMSS.

spectragod · Post by **spectragod** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 8:52 am

I think you are asking for a continuous rotary knob option, I don't believe it exists for a xts.

You could put a III front, keypad, display and all the related parts that go with that on the radio, then you would know who is talking and could access options like zone, scan, program lists etc., certainly worth the $$$ to have it done.

SG

ExKa|iBuR · Post by **ExKa|iBuR** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 9:30 am

What $$ are we talking to take a Model 1 to a Model 2 or 3...

-Mike

Heterodyne · Post by **Heterodyne** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 9:34 am

ExKa|iBuR wrote:What $$ are we talking to take a Model 1 to a Model 2 or 3...

Last reliable quote I've heard is upwards of $400...

ExKa|iBuR · Post by **ExKa|iBuR** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 10:02 am

Yeah, that's new. I don't really need new.

Used, I'd imagine it's not more than 200.

-Mike

Heterodyne · Post by **Heterodyne** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 1:17 pm

Thanks for the back-up, Shaun. And that's list price too, I see.

Its certainly not as simple as buying a top display from eBay and snapping it on.

Unless you're willing to shell out about as much as you paid for the radio, Mike - I think you're stuck with your model I. I think you're better off spending your upgrade money on a better radio and selling the model I if you're that intent on having a display. Otherwise, just make do with your new toy. Its still a hell of a lot better than most people have.

ASTROMODAT · Post by **ASTROMODAT** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 3:09 pm

You'd be far better off buying a PRO-96. There was a post on Monday's PRO 96 board saying that RS will be releasing a firmware uplift that supports more than the current 10 folders. Can't see how you can beat this!

Larry

RocketNJ · Post by **RocketNJ** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 5:25 pm

Hey Larry,

Which Pro96 board did you see this on? Nice to hear that Rat Shack/GRE will be coming out with upgrades (if it is true).

George

ASTROMODAT wrote:You'd be far better off buying a PRO-96. There was a post on Monday's PRO 96 board saying that RS will be releasing a firmware uplift that supports more than the current 10 folders. Can't see how you can beat this!

Larry

ASTROMODAT · Post by **ASTROMODAT** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 6:22 pm

Its called "PRO 96" board, and I got a link to it from a Ham site.

Bugs Bunny · Post by **Bugs Bunny** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 5:45 am

Yeah, but a PRo 96 doesn't have that cool wannabe look, now does it?

Bugs

ExKa|iBuR · Post by **ExKa|iBuR** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 6:28 am

Yeah but can a Pro-96 do SmartZone, AMSS, or...can it transmit at all? That's kinda what I'm going for here!

-M

Heterodyne · Post by **Heterodyne** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 7:41 am

Bugs Bunny wrote:Yeah, but a PRo 96 doesn't have that cool wannabe look, now does it?

Barry Dehatchit · Post by **Barry Dehatchit** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 12:53 pm

Is this the same radio you were asking about recasing into an XTS5000 case?

Why would anyone bother?

Unless they can't afford the xts5000 but want everybody to think they've got an xts5000.

Doesn't the ambulance service in Toronto have XTS5000's?

Lets see, xts3000 model I recased into an XTS5000 case and a Muskoka EMS avatar although you admit you don't work for them.

What's next? The Toronto EMS jacket (or have you already got one)?

Hows that Cheech and Chong skit go?

Smells like a wannabe, looks like a wannabe, etc, etc.

Post by **wavetar** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 3:48 pm

I originally chastized Barry for being uneccesarily rude towards Excalibur & locked the topic. It has since been revealed that the comments are an inside joke, and not to be taken seriously by others 'not in the know'. I guess we can all jump to conclusions at times.

Todd

ExKa|iBuR · Post by **ExKa|iBuR** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 5:18 pm

Well, for the record, I have no clue in hell who Barry is...

Buuuut...if he bothered to take his heads out of the clouds, he'd see why I want to recase into the Model 2 5000 case... I'd rather spend 50 bucks for a case than the 500 or whatever a model 2 3000 would cost.

And no, I don't have a Metro EMS jacket, I have a Niagara EMS jacket, as I was employed by them for a year.

-Mike

Barry Dehatchit · Post by **Barry Dehatchit** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 5:51 pm

You make no sense.

Why would you want to recase a Model 1 XTS3000 into a Model 2 XTS5000 case?

Why wouldn't you spend the $50 and recase into an XTS3000 Model 2 case? Much simpler but I guess it doesn't have the look of a Toronto EMS radio?

ExKa|iBuR · Post by **ExKa|iBuR** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 6:05 pm

Dude, before Todd locks this.

Are you A COMPLETE idiot, or just in your spare time?

I can get a Model 2 XTS5000 housing for 50 dollars. The cheapest I've found an XTS3000 Model 3 housing for is around 390.

I don't CARE if it looks like an XTS3000, 5000, or whatever, I just want the display. My question wasn't "How can I make this look like an EMS radio", my question was if it would work, physically and electronically.

You really don't understand the concept of saving money, do you? Why the HELL would I pay 390 bucks if something that costs 50 would do the same thing?? If everybody on here payed Motorola for the "real deal", then boards like this wouldn't need to exsist now, would they?

Your opinion means nothing to me, as it's obviously based on the fact you're either too ignorant or too lazy to even read what other people are posting before shooting your mouth off.

To the other members and moderators on here, sorry for getting on the soap box, but this guy was really pissing me off. I'm done.

-Mike

Bugs Bunny · Post by **Bugs Bunny** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 6:16 pm

I don't think the XTS5K case will do the job for you. Display drivers are different, IIRC. But since it will only cost you $50, buy the case and see if you can make it work for you.

Bugs

ASTROMODAT · Post by **ASTROMODAT** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 10:15 pm

I think it was already pointed out that the 5000 series has different connector cables, etc compared to the 3000 series, so it won't work. Save your $50.

Larry

ExKa|iBuR · Post by **ExKa|iBuR** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 11:40 pm

Yes, it's been answered.

Thanks to those who CONTRIBUTE to the question, not pick apart the asker.

-Mike

Post by **wavetar** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 2:39 pm

Ok, Mike doesn't know who Barry is, and the thread has definitley run it's course. The parties involved can PM if they wish to straighten anything out, but the thread shall now remain locked.

Todd

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