Saber III with 15ch

[Motoman]

I have a Saber III normal, and it shows 12ch on the label, yet the channel selector can rotate to 15 positions. Is that extra channels? or just a malfunction? thanks.

[nitornemo]

It "should" go to 16 if the stop was modified.
Generic knob-pot for the saber/system saber housings/chasis.

I have a Saber III normal, and it shows 12ch on the label, yet the channel selector can rotate to 15 positions. Is that extra channels? or just a malfunction? thanks.

[RadioSouth]

The analog Saber 3 is capable of 12 channles per zone of 10 zones. The extra positions on the switch are for Systems Sabers. They're just using the same switch assembly for similar models They do this on a lot of their models, guess it reduces their tooling costs.

[10-95]

You can actually hex edit channels 13-16 into the radios codeplug and it will then read and write with those channels in the radio but if you ever delete the channels from the codeplug you'll have to re-hex them in. I did this once to see if it would actually work and it did.

Frank

[Tom in D.C.]

There is a small stop-ring which on your radio is out of position, or it may be missing. It should have the underside, single tab, on the indentation at the channel 9 position. Reset the ring to that position and the knob will stop at 12 as it should.

[IslesFan]

You can actually hex edit channels 13-16 into the radios codeplug and it will then read and write with those channels in the radio but if you ever delete the channels from the codeplug you'll have to re-hex them in. I did this once to see if it would actually work and it did.

Frank

Would this work with a Saber 1?

[10-95]

You can actually hex edit channels 13-16 into the radios codeplug and it will then read and write with those channels in the radio but if you ever delete the channels from the codeplug you'll have to re-hex them in. I did this once to see if it would actually work and it did.

Frank

Would this work with a Saber 1?

Yes, I have done it with a Saber 1.

Frank

[IslesFan]

You can actually hex edit channels 13-16 into the radios codeplug and it will then read and write with those channels in the radio but if you ever delete the channels from the codeplug you'll have to re-hex them in. I did this once to see if it would actually work and it did.

Frank

Would this work with a Saber 1?

Yes, I have done it with a Saber 1.

Frank

When you add these channels via hex edit, are they viewable/editable in the saber RSS?

[10-95]

Would this work with a Saber 1?

Yes, I have done it with a Saber 1.

Frank

When you add these channels via hex edit, are they viewable/editable in the saber RSS?

Yes they are, but you can never delete them or you'll have to go back and hex edit them back in . You can edit the information in the new channels in the RSS just don't delete the channel positions.

Frank

[IslesFan]

Yes, I have done it with a Saber 1.

Frank

When you add these channels via hex edit, are they viewable/editable in the saber RSS?

Yes they are, but you can never delete them or you'll have to go back and hex edit them back in . You can edit the information in the new channels in the RSS just don't delete the channel positions.

Frank

Frank,
Do you know how to make the channel knob go to 16 channels?

--IslesFan

[Tom in D.C.]

AS NOTED ABOVE, there is a stop ring under the selector knob.
Remove the ring and you will go to 16 positions.

[Cowthief]

Hello.

To do all positions, remove the stop.
To make it a bit clear.
One you have hex edited the channels on, you do not want to DELETE them.
You can edit the extra channels all you want, just do not blank out the channels.
write in any valid frequency(s) you choose before you write to the codeplug.

[IslesFan]

AS NOTED ABOVE, there is a stop ring under the selector knob.
Remove the ring and you will go to 16 positions.

I understand that. Whats the best way to remove the ring?

[Tom in D.C.]

The ring just sits in place. If you first remove the outer knob, then remove the adapter (plastic) underneath, the ring will be accessible and adjustable. When I said above that you put the tab into position 9 I was relying on my memory, so you may have to cut and try to get the ring set so that the knob stops on 12, if that's what you're trying to do.

[IslesFan]

I removed the ring, edited the codeplug for 15 channels(my radio wont go to the 16th channel) and then I tried to upload the new codeplug with 15 legit channels in to the radio. It uploads the firmware sucessfully, but when I go to channel positions 13-15, the radio shows(i've checked with the radio alignment screens) that its on channel 12, yet if i I load my saved codeplug with 15 channels, it'll show I'm on 13-15 correctly, but the channel isnt working.

This is a saber 1, H43SAN7139CN, unless I'm missing something?

Edit: If I go to view radio information, For Number of Channels, it has: 15 / 12, Which I think means 15 channels out of a max of 12, Maybe I need to do some more hex editing?

[IslesFan]

Heh, it works!

I think I just need to do a channel align(Which I have NO idea how to do), because it appeared that for channels 1-12 the RSS set it automatically.

Thanks to 10-95 and Tom in DC.

[10-95]

Heh, it works!

I think I just need to do a channel align(Which I have NO idea how to do), because it appeared that for channels 1-12 the RSS set it automatically.

Thanks to 10-95 and Tom in DC.

Congradulations, glad you got it working! I neverf had that problem on any I evere did, at least you got it now.

Frank

[IslesFan]

Heh, it works!

I think I just need to do a channel align(Which I have NO idea how to do), because it appeared that for channels 1-12 the RSS set it automatically.

Thanks to 10-95 and Tom in DC.

Congradulations, glad you got it working! I neverf had that problem on any I evere did, at least you got it now.

Frank

Yeah, just need to align those three channels, because apparently, the saber RSS sets the settings automacially for the first 12 channels, but not for 13-15, so I have no idea how to align those three channels. Thats why I didn't think it worked, because I set one of the channels as a weather channel, and wasn't coming in.

So now I have two issues with my saber:
1. Need to align those three channels
2. Low Battery Warning isn't kicking in, so I don't know if its the battery, or the setting in the RSS is wrong.

--IslesFan

[petrus]

IslesFan, You're right.

The radio can' t get the alignment for the aditinonal 3 chanels.
The file tell the radio to align only 12 chanels. So You have to
change the file again.

If You use a hex editor to do this, please take a look at 0000F80.
You will find in the ascii text box "C".

"C" stands for 12 chanels, D for 13, E for 14, F for 15.
Instead of "C" You have to use "F" for 15 chanels. If the file is ok,
the radio will do the alignment for 15 chanels.

I tested it two days ago with two radios and 14 chanels. Hope it
works for You too.

Best greetings
andreas

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