The elusive XTS4000 has been found
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H18KCN9PW9AN XTS4000 PORTABLE ASTRO DIGITAL 136-174MHZ 1-2W
So far only VHF 136-174
1-2 watts tx power (sucks a little)
Astro P25 Trunking (dont know if it will do 3600)
looking at the alignment sheets it does analog as well
Secure capable. What flavour? has a UCM so I guess most of them.
Regular Astro Portable Software
So far only VHF 136-174
1-2 watts tx power (sucks a little)
Astro P25 Trunking (dont know if it will do 3600)
looking at the alignment sheets it does analog as well
Secure capable. What flavour? has a UCM so I guess most of them.
Regular Astro Portable Software
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oh boy, here we go
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4k
the bad
looks like the rx audio will be a little weak coming from the cell phone speaker.
the range on this thing is going to suck big time with that stumpy antenna on vhf.
the good
it will be easy to carry, and if the local coverage is good ( good repeater or other system) it will work good for individuals on an on call basis.
aint it just so cute ..lol
looks like the rx audio will be a little weak coming from the cell phone speaker.
the range on this thing is going to suck big time with that stumpy antenna on vhf.
the good
it will be easy to carry, and if the local coverage is good ( good repeater or other system) it will work good for individuals on an on call basis.
aint it just so cute ..lol
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Nextel on crack!
No worse than the small TETRA terminals you see overseas. It'd be pretty good for plain clothes cops, feds, ASIO spies etc. I expect it will be reasonably cheap as far as new ASTRO gear goes, otherwise nobody will bother.
I think it's pretty cool, I wouldn't mind one on UHF. Less wacktastic than carrying a full sized ASTRO radio everywhere you go.
No worse than the small TETRA terminals you see overseas. It'd be pretty good for plain clothes cops, feds, ASIO spies etc. I expect it will be reasonably cheap as far as new ASTRO gear goes, otherwise nobody will bother.
I think it's pretty cool, I wouldn't mind one on UHF. Less wacktastic than carrying a full sized ASTRO radio everywhere you go.
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Re: 4k
500 millWatts out the speakerkt2728 wrote:looks like the rx audio will be a little weak coming from the cell phone speaker.
I guess not everyone will hear
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RS232 XTS4000 PROGRAMMING CABLE
0182297T15
CABLE, XTS4000 KEYLOAD
NNTN7056A
ADP W AES ENCRYPTIONKITUCM XTS4000
NNTN7182A
XTS4000 AC CHARGER WITH CRADLE
NNTN7183A
XTS4000 DC CHARGER WITH CRADLE
NNTN7152A
ASSEMBLY,BATTERY,MAIN,REGULATED BATTERY ELIMINATOR, XTS4000
Maybe we need a knowledge base area for this radio.
It is FCC approved so I guess it will be around soon enough
RS232 XTS4000 PROGRAMMING CABLE
0182297T15
CABLE, XTS4000 KEYLOAD
NNTN7056A
ADP W AES ENCRYPTIONKITUCM XTS4000
NNTN7182A
XTS4000 AC CHARGER WITH CRADLE
NNTN7183A
XTS4000 DC CHARGER WITH CRADLE
NNTN7152A
ASSEMBLY,BATTERY,MAIN,REGULATED BATTERY ELIMINATOR, XTS4000
Maybe we need a knowledge base area for this radio.
It is FCC approved so I guess it will be around soon enough
What's the FCC ID?
EDIT: Never mind.
Photos:
External: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/form ... or_pdf=pdf
Internal: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/form ... or_pdf=pdf
The antenna is actually a cellphone-style extendable item, about three and a half inches long. It shouldn't be too bad on UHF, but it will still be crap on VHF.
User's manual
Part 1: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/form ... or_pdf=pdf
Part 2: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/form ... or_pdf=pdf
The radio borrows a lot from the user interface on TETRA radios. In fact, a lot of the screenshot artwork has "TETRA" on it
EDIT: Never mind.
Photos:
External: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/form ... or_pdf=pdf
Internal: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/form ... or_pdf=pdf
The antenna is actually a cellphone-style extendable item, about three and a half inches long. It shouldn't be too bad on UHF, but it will still be crap on VHF.
User's manual
Part 1: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/form ... or_pdf=pdf
Part 2: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/form ... or_pdf=pdf
The radio borrows a lot from the user interface on TETRA radios. In fact, a lot of the screenshot artwork has "TETRA" on it
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Whoa... I was convinced this was just a day-late April Fools Day prank.
This would be amazing for 'discrete' use--everyone would just think it was another Nextel. And as mr.syntrx says, it's great for us geeks to carry too.
That antenna just looks ridiculous, though.
Page 14 of the first manual mentions something to do with GPS. Eh?
"Ringtones" on a radio... Oh dear. Although Vibracall is neat.
This is really pretty spiffy. Any word on availability?
This would be amazing for 'discrete' use--everyone would just think it was another Nextel. And as mr.syntrx says, it's great for us geeks to carry too.
That antenna just looks ridiculous, though.
Page 14 of the first manual mentions something to do with GPS. Eh?
"Ringtones" on a radio... Oh dear. Although Vibracall is neat.
This is really pretty spiffy. Any word on availability?
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Anyone else see this on the front page of Radioreference?
http://www.usdoj.gov/oig/reports/OBD/a0725/final.pdf
That seems to answer a few questions (speculation and hypothesizing ahoy)..
1. Note the part on page 7 of the preface where they mention "large" and "obtrusive." The Feds want something that works like an Astro Saber, but looks like a cellphone.
2. The IWN operates on VHF Highband, hence why we're seeing the first one done in a VHF model with Astro25 trunking capability specifically mentioned.
3. They didn't roll it out at IWCE because, at least in the initial offering, it's probably being specifically market towards the Feds, a la the SSE5000 and the NYPD.
So there you go. The XTS4000 is most likely a purpose-built device for the DOJ IWN system. I guess they plan on having some awesome site saturation when it's all said and done.
http://www.usdoj.gov/oig/reports/OBD/a0725/final.pdf
That seems to answer a few questions (speculation and hypothesizing ahoy)..
1. Note the part on page 7 of the preface where they mention "large" and "obtrusive." The Feds want something that works like an Astro Saber, but looks like a cellphone.
2. The IWN operates on VHF Highband, hence why we're seeing the first one done in a VHF model with Astro25 trunking capability specifically mentioned.
3. They didn't roll it out at IWCE because, at least in the initial offering, it's probably being specifically market towards the Feds, a la the SSE5000 and the NYPD.
So there you go. The XTS4000 is most likely a purpose-built device for the DOJ IWN system. I guess they plan on having some awesome site saturation when it's all said and done.
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Interoperability, blah, blah, blah...
After reading most of that report I think it's no wonder our
government gets so little done, and what does get done
takes forever to accomplish.
government gets so little done, and what does get done
takes forever to accomplish.
Tom in D.C.
In 1920, the U.S. Post Office Department ruled
that children may not be sent by parcel post.
In 1920, the U.S. Post Office Department ruled
that children may not be sent by parcel post.
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pie syndrome
before congress allocated a single penny, the budget outlay should have required all sand box players to put on new uniforms and play by the same set of rules - i.e. - be FORCED to accept decisions by an executive board.
otherwise you get what they have - "my pie" "your pie" "my money" "your money" crap
funny to note that the turnover of positions is so high ... HA!
doug
before congress allocated a single penny, the budget outlay should have required all sand box players to put on new uniforms and play by the same set of rules - i.e. - be FORCED to accept decisions by an executive board.
otherwise you get what they have - "my pie" "your pie" "my money" "your money" crap
funny to note that the turnover of positions is so high ... HA!
doug
BRAVO MIKE JULIET ALPHA
"You can do whatever you want, there are just consequences..."
IF SOMEONE PM'S YOU - HAVE THE COURTESY TO REPLY.
"You can do whatever you want, there are just consequences..."
IF SOMEONE PM'S YOU - HAVE THE COURTESY TO REPLY.
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I'm trying to get our Eurocopter one so I can retrieve my XTL5000
I'm trying to get our Eurocopter one so I can retrieve my XTL5000
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excellent marketing by Techni
stuff 1-2-3 XTS3000 (maybe 5000) chassis in a box, add some custom displays and power/audio circuitry....
and sell it for $65,000.
lol
doug
stuff 1-2-3 XTS3000 (maybe 5000) chassis in a box, add some custom displays and power/audio circuitry....
and sell it for $65,000.
lol
doug
BRAVO MIKE JULIET ALPHA
"You can do whatever you want, there are just consequences..."
IF SOMEONE PM'S YOU - HAVE THE COURTESY TO REPLY.
"You can do whatever you want, there are just consequences..."
IF SOMEONE PM'S YOU - HAVE THE COURTESY TO REPLY.
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You know I was thinking the same thing when I saw this. Look at all the quad-band phones the size of the Razr... Granted they don't do 5 Watts, but neither does this. There's really no reason they can't do it. I'm pretty certain that the reason they don't is that they'd rather we buy more radios.HumHead wrote:WHERE THE HELL IS MY DUAL-BAND ASTRO PORTABLE???
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Oh, but you forget... that box is made with precious metals. TSOdium ain't cheap.batdude wrote:excellent marketing by Techni
stuff 1-2-3 XTS3000 (maybe 5000) chassis in a box, add some custom displays and power/audio circuitry....
and sell it for $65,000.
Re: ...
They are definitely XTS5000 tanapas, and they are nowhere near $65k.batdude wrote:excellent marketing by Techni
stuff 1-2-3 XTS3000 (maybe 5000) chassis in a box, add some custom displays and power/audio circuitry....
and sell it for $65,000.
lol
doug
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Re: The elusive XTS4000 has been found
Had a meeting with our moto rep today - these are available and shipping.
2W out, with a 4 hour battery life. :/
Good for overt-covert, or something, I guess.
2W out, with a 4 hour battery life. :/
Good for overt-covert, or something, I guess.
Re: The elusive XTS4000 has been found
Are they still VHF only?
Re: The elusive XTS4000 has been found
They are avaliable in both Q and K flavors.Jack wrote:Are they still VHF only?
There are no plans to make them in S, U, or W.
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Re: The elusive XTS4000 has been found
I have been using my VHF at work and the thin battery typically lasts an 8.5 hour shift with the low battery chirp starting in at about 8 hours. This is with very minimal transmit but I usually leave it on all the time and when I am in the vehicle I put it in vibrate mode and when I get out of the car I turn the speaker back on.
I do carry the high capacity battery as back up however.
Jason
I do carry the high capacity battery as back up however.
Jason